SEO is Out. LLM-First Visibility is In: What One AI Startup Learned from Reddit + ChatGPT

Jason Wade, Founder NinjaAI • August 2, 2025
Diagram showing Perplexity and ChatGPT processing data from Florida and Reddit to generate a webpage.

We used to play the SEO game.


Write a blog.

Wait 3 months.

Maybe rank.

Maybe convert.


Here’s what really happened at 8 early-stage AI startups we studied (Series A or earlier):


  • ✅ Google Page 1? Took ~94 days
  • 📉 Organic CTR? Just 2.6%
  • ⏱ First qualified lead? 6–8 weeks
  • 🔮 Vibes? Not great.


So we asked a better question:


👉 What if we focused on showing up in ChatGPT, Perplexity, and LLM answers instead?


Turns out… that was the game-changer.


🚀 What Changed When We Went LLM-First


  • Perplexity indexed our content in <48 hours
  • ChatGPT (with browsing) picked up feature pages in days
  • 18.2% of sessions now come from LLM-originated paths
  • Those leads convert 2.4x better than blog traffic


Yes, faster than Google—and it brought pipeline.


🔁 Reddit was Our Secret Weapon


We started posting technical breakdowns and no-link posts here on Reddit.


One breakdown (about automating an AI agent pipeline) was quoted by Perplexity in 9 different queries like:


  • “UX AI Agent”
  • “Best Firecrawl alternatives”
  • “How to track LLM bots”


All we did was share what we were building.


No link drops. No promotions. Just real info.


🧪 Within 3 Days of Posting:


  • ✅ Perplexity quoted us
  • 🔍 9 queries indexed
  • 🧲 2 inbound leads came directly from those LLM responses


🛠 Steal These 3 LLM-First Tactics That Worked for Us


1. Add Short Q&A to Every Product Page


We dropped 5–7 questions per page, each <40 words.


Example:

Q: How does FireGEO detect ClaudeBot?
A: It fingerprints known Anthropic headers + reverse-DNS IP matches (e.g., 2600:1f18::/32)


What happened next:


  • Indexed in <48 hours by Perplexity
  • 11 bot hits in 5 days
  • 1 lead → trial signup in <1 week


2. Build an AI Sitemap.xml


We made a second sitemap that only included high-signal pages:


  • API docs
  • Feature comparisons
  • Pricing breakdowns
  • Tech specs


🚀 LLM crawl rate jumped 2.3x higher than default.


Now, GPTBotClaudeBot, and PerplexityBot show up daily in our logs.


3. Treat Reddit Like an Input Layer


We now post value-first content here before our blogs.

In just 30 days:


  • 🔁 30,000+ views from Reddit posts
  • 🧠 9 quotes inside Perplexity answers
  • 💼 2 leads directly from those quotes


✅ If You’re Shipping Something Real, Do This:


  1. Install FireGEO or track LLM bots via reverse DNS & ASN logs
  2. Create llm.txt with structured facts for key pages
  3. Tag LLM traffic with UTMs → Route into your CRM + track separately


Curious what’s working for you around LLM visibility?


Got ideas or better visibility hacks?

Let’s make this a community playbook. 👇

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